“cool”, or completely irresponsible?

"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction)
11/01/2018 at 21:07 • Filed to: None

I’m going with the latter. If there’s zero traffic, fine, but that’s not the case here.

Search for the video - using remote summon to avoid parking tickets.

DISCUSSION (19)

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/01/2018 at 21:15

2 days later

Kinja'd!!!

Spanfeller is a twat > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/01/2018 at 21:22

I think it’s OK. I mean, it’s not like people don’t do it already with regular cars.

The Dummy Gummy > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/01/2018 at 21:36

Should just link to the video.

dogisbadob > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/01/2018 at 21:39

And if there is nowhere to park, the self-driving cars will just keep driving around. The car can let you off somewhere, and then keep circling the block until you’re done.

blacktruck18 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/01/2018 at 21:47

I’m going with cool, the car is designed to move safely on it’s own in summon mode. If someone just went outside and moved there car 1 spot to avoid the ticket I wouldn’t be mad, they obeyed the letter of the law.

Urambo Tauro > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/01/2018 at 21:53

2-hour parking

Well obviously he’s breaking the spirit of the law, in that the 2-hour parking spaces are supposed to be reserved for people coming and going (customers, deliveries, stuff like that) throughout the day. The video states that he’s doing this from his office, suggesting that he’s leaving his car in front of that building for several hours per day.

But if there’s always an empty space nearby for him to move the car to... then maybe he’s not breaking the spirit of why that time limit was put in place after all. As long as he’s not hoarding the last available space, then I don’t see the harm in parking there.

But still, what’s he going to do- sit by the window all day long just to make sure that his actions aren’t resulting in the last space being taken? Doubt it.

DipodomysDeserti > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/01/2018 at 22:21

I’m going to assume anything the guy in that avatar does is a douche move.

facw > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/01/2018 at 22:48

Neither I say. A little too anti-social to be cool, but given the car is designed to be able to drive on its own, also not completely irresponsible.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > facw
11/02/2018 at 09:02

Maybe it’s safe enough - not sure.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > DipodomysDeserti
11/02/2018 at 09:02

I think that’s safe.

facw > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/02/2018 at 09:04

It’s certainly possible its not safe enough, but if not, I’d say that’s on Tesla rather than the guy.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Urambo Tauro
11/02/2018 at 09:04

I mean, there are plenty of people who do the 2-hour thing and just go move their car themselves, so...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > blacktruck18
11/02/2018 at 09:05

Summon is for driveways and parking lots, not city streets, but yeah, I guess the likelihood of anything going wrong it pretty slim.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > The Dummy Gummy
11/02/2018 at 09:06

Yeah, sorry - Kinja mobile + laziness.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > facw
11/02/2018 at 09:10

This feature will park Model S while the driver is outside the vehicle. Please note that the vehicle may not detect certain obstacles, including those that are very narrow (e.g., bikes ), lower than the fascia, or hanging from the ceiling. As such, Summon requires that you continually monitor your vehicle’s movement and surroundings while it is in progress and that you remain prepared to stop the vehicle at any time using your key fob or mobile app or by pressing any door handle. You must maintain control and responsibility for your vehicle when using this feature and should only use it on private property .

facw > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/02/2018 at 09:15

Yep, and yet, I would still put the blame primarily with Tesla, because they really should be assuming the customer both hasn’t actually read that, and is a moron. If it can’t move safely on its own, it shouldn’t be doing so. And frankly if it can’t move safely in public I wouldn’t trust it to move safely on private property either.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > facw
11/02/2018 at 09:20

They are still using the word “Autopilot”, so ...

facw > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
11/02/2018 at 09:39

And I still think that is not a huge problem, because “Autopilot” does not mean self-driving.

I think the recently withdrawn “Full Self-Driving Hardware” option was a lot more misleading, given that they don’t have full self-driving, don’t know wh en they will, don’t know what hardware will be required, and definitely confuses the autopilot situation a bit.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > facw
11/02/2018 at 09:47

Most p eople hear “Autopilot” and think the car can drive itself. Perception matters.